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Re: Plot Suggestions [message #1086 is a reply to message #1085] |
Wed, 25 July 2012 19:26 |
artisticrainey
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I just got this idea sadly when my neighbor's oldest daughter was diagnosed with brain cancer earlier this week, and a co-worker's mother was diagnosed with advanced lung cancer. Let's say IR's out on a rescue, and among those to be saved is a terminally ill person who's going to die anyway. He doesn't want to be rescued because he knows he'll die soon anyway. Do you think he would want IR to honor his request or would IR go on and rescue him anyway?
Also, if you've heard the California situation where a woman sued a good samaritan for supposedly causing her paralysis, there could be an idea there, too. I wonder if there could be a situation like that here, too, besides the situation where Nikki punched out the guy in that landslide rescue?
TracyFan4Ever, January 17, 2009
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Re: Plot Suggestions [message #1087 is a reply to message #1086] |
Wed, 25 July 2012 19:26 |
artisticrainey
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Yes, I've thought about that myself. There was an incident a few years ago when a woman heard her neighbour yelling for help - her husband wasn't breathing or something. So the woman went over, did CPR, and broke a rib. Afterwards, the couple sued the woman for the broken rib. Good gracious, she saved the guy's life!
And police have sometimes warned people that unless you're on duty as a police or ambulance officer, or any emergency specialist, that if you see someone in trouble, don't help them. You could get sued. Just call for the proper emergency people and get out of the area.
They don't advise that all the time, but there are some nasty people out there.
scuppy3, January 20, 2009
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Re: Plot Suggestions [message #1089 is a reply to message #1088] |
Wed, 25 July 2012 19:26 |
artisticrainey
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Quote:The good Samaritan laws in Washington state protect you IF you can show you were properly trained in the technique you used. A current red cross certification for instance. It can be weird if your a medical professional though. A nurse friend said she's scard to help sometime. It may be more of an insurace thing though.
The case you're talking about is a bit more complicated then that. The lady was conscious and told her friend NOT to pull her our of the car. The friend claims she thought the car was going to explode. It didn't, others were still in the car when the paramedics arrived. The claim is, if the firefights had lifted her out correctly, her back would not have been broken.
Now if someone claimed IR did something incorrectly and that caused the damage, they might have a case. Could IR prove it's people had the proper training without telling people who they were? Or if the spouse of someone who died claimed medical malpractice?
In the old RP, Dianne was listed with Doctors Without Borders as simply "IR's physician", or something to that effect (Drew wasn't her uncle in that continuity, but he helped her get her license and certification through them - that particular RP had some... ahem... reality issues). Medical malpractice would be hard to prove, though, I'd think.
We should decide exactly how much emergency medical training the boys have had; I'm sure it's some, but to what level, I don't know. And proving their competence without revealing who they are would be a problem.
Tikatu, January 20, 2009
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Re: Plot Suggestions [message #1091 is a reply to message #1090] |
Wed, 25 July 2012 19:27 |
artisticrainey
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Quote:They would rescue him anyway. There's no telling what treatments are around the corner (like the cancer center) and a family would have cause to try and sue if a person was left behind, fatal cancer or not.
Not if the person not wanting to be rescued makes a video of himself saying he doesn't want to be saved by IR. I've had this idea brewing. He asks one of the rescuers to hold his digital camera (which has video capability), and he clearly says this, "My name is (whatever). I do not want to be saved by International Rescue. I'm terminally ill, and I don't have much longer to live. I want the public and my family to know the choice was mine to make, so please, do not blame them. They've respected my right to do this, so I'll respect their privacy."
From personal experience of my father's passing from cancer, I can say sometimes the cure is more painful than the disease. Not everyone wants to go through the enduring pain of radiation or chemotherapy. Yes, I understand there will probably be less painful treatments by 2068, but unfortunately, not all cancers will be cured by then, either. Just putting my two cents worth into this idea.
TracyFan4Ever, January 20, 2009
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Re: Plot Suggestions [message #1092 is a reply to message #1091] |
Wed, 25 July 2012 19:28 |
artisticrainey
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Unfortunately it wouldn't just be a matter of consent by the person. Unless it was a country where euthanasia was legal, and, say, he couldn't afford it, then there would be a legal issue at stake. Assisted suicide is still illegal in a lot of countries today
I understand where you're coming from, Shirley. I can see the situation arising. Dominic's mother took her own life rather than suffer more with cancer. It's a complicated moral, legal, and personal issue, religious if you want to throw that hat into the ring.
I can't help thinking of IR's motto: "Never give up at any cost."
ArtisticRainey, January 21, 2009
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Re: Plot Suggestions [message #1094 is a reply to message #1093] |
Wed, 25 July 2012 19:28 |
artisticrainey
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Off the top of my head, scuppy, the only thing I could think of that might fit your criteria would be something like this:
Someone in a rescue area moves an unconscious/semiconscious victim to a place where the victim can be more easily found. Because of this, the victim is injured more seriously. But when said victim regains consciousness, s/he sees an IR person there, and assumes s/he was the one who caused the injury.
Of course, the IR field operative would have to be tried in absentia since, for security reasons, the operative would not be able to be there in person.
But what a publicity nightmare! And can you imagine the Hood trying to capitalize on that?
hobbeth, January 21, 2009
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